Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Wrinkled Chevrolet.jpg

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 29 Sep 2014 at 23:02:37 (UTC)
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Old Chevrolet
Usually not my type of photo/subject but I couldn't resist to that one. More info in the file's description. -- Christopher Crouzet (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Christopher Crouzet (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment My immediate thought was: 1. The crop is too tight. 2. This seems more like a topic for 500px or so. My afterthought was: OK, the whole point is that the car is crammed into a very narrow space, this justifies the very tight crop. And secondly it has wow, and it may be claimed it has educational value too. So, I am ready to support, almost. Please elaborate on the categorization on the file page first. -- Slaunger (talk) 14:58, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Some general categorization guidance unrelated to the specific nomination
  • They should be much more specific. Try to click on the category Chevrolet you have added. There are eights pictures there. Do you think it is because there are only 8 pics of Chevrolet on Commons? Of course not, that is because a lot of work is being into proper categorization, such that repository users, who search for a particular kind of chevrolet for instance, can look for it in a specific category, like Chevrolet C/K (1960) Viking without having to browse through thousands of general chevrolet pictures. See also our policy Commons:Categories for proper categorization. What is the point of taking a great photo if nobody can find it, when browsing for a specific topic? For an example of proper categorization of a car, I just picked a car photo of my own: File:Citroën DS 21 27 Quai Anatole France license plate blanked 2012-06-02 cropped.jpg. Try to find some equivalent categories for your car. I am sorry if this process is a little boring or tedious, but an FP is not only the image, but also adequate metadata. -- Slaunger (talk) 15:08, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't know that having the good categories was a requirement for the feature nominations. I find it to be a bit of a struggle to find what categories could potentially exist for a certain photo. There are millions of them and I can't think of a straighforward way to find the right ones but by spending a fair amount of time browsing others photos with a similar subject. Oh well, I've added a few more categories according to the link to the (beautiful) Citroen, but I've got no idea of the model, sorry. -- Christopher Crouzet (talk) 19:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your new categories are very fine! Thank you. If you look at the FPC page, there is a link to the full image guideline in which there is a section about the Image page requirements. Here there is a link to our categorization policy Commons:Categorization. Yeah, that was complicated, but just to let you know this is not something I am making up. In there you also find some advice on how to browse the categories. I usually just start out by picking a very general category like Chevrolet and dig into it. If you use the HotCat gadget the tool helps you to lookup categories as you type, and also have handy shortcuts for digging into subcategories. Of course I could also just have done it for you, but I feel it is more instructive to guide other users into understanding how they can manage themselves. Often, I find there is something I do not know when categorizing an image (like the car model which is still unresolved in this case). Here other users are often of very good help, especially if you know who to ask. This can be difficult to know if you have not been around for a long time. However, feel free to ask me, for instance. I often know who to ask. There is a good reason for the image page requirements: What is the use of having taken a picture, which is one of our finest, if no-one can find it afterwards due to an inadequate file description or categorization? To have good metadata is to show empathy for our repository re-users. It will also boost use of the image on the various wiki-projects. That is what I find is one of the thrilling aspects of Commons, to see your images being used, and often used in contexts you had never even imagined. -- Slaunger (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be honest I would be tempted to say that I'm here to share my photos (amongst other things) and that dealing with categories is not something I'd like to be bothered too much about. But I understand your point, and the rules are the rules. I'll try to do better next time, thanks! -- Christopher Crouzet (talk) 03:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment @Christopher Crouzet: : Sometimes, LivioAndronico, also fancies landscapes and many other things I am sure. Be careful not to have bad faith and generalize. It does not stimulate a collegial atmosphere. Each reviewer has his own preferences, but by and large, combining the impressions from all reviewrs, we usually end up with a pretty fair result averaged over topics. Often it is hard to 'oppose', and hard to express why you do not find an image featurable. A lot of reviewers avoid it, because nominators always complain. -- Slaunger (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fine. I don't agree though about the landscape note—there's a building in it! And yes, I myself do avoid opposing because I feel like I don't understand a specific domain (such as architecure) to be able to judge—otherwise I would write "I don't like the subject" in each of them like he did with my photo of the volcanoes, and that's what I was trying to say. See the discussion on my own user page for more. -- Christopher Crouzet (talk) 19:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Christopher Crouzet My vote is a personal vote on each photo, in this case to me and only me a picture of a rusty chevrolet uninspiring (and my car is a chevrolet, think they are twisted) in any case if I were to take as the yourself with someone who rejects the photos I had to make a killing in me have rejected some users also said that 8 out of 10 pictures again, if other people will support your photo will feature anyway and my life will not change. Henceforth, however, saw your resentment will avoid vote your photographs so as to avoid any unpleasant misunderstandings, greetings. --LivioAndronico talk 08:54, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 2 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--DXR (talk) 10:56, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]