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Map of Hungary in the late 13th century, background from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hungary_13th_cent.png] added with the Vlachs communities under Vlach Jog attested by Mihályi János : ''Magyar diplomák a XIII és XIV századbol''.
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Reason: derivative of another Web-original map. Has been flagged as "incorrect map"; please see also the discussion.

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English: Map of Hungary at the end of the 13th century, based on the other version but showing also the Oláh (Vlach) areas under Vlach Jog in versions not aligned with the current Hungarian point of view.
Français : Carte de la Hongrie à la fin du XIIIe siècle, basée sur l'autre version mais figurant aussi, dans les versions non-alignées sur le point de vue hongrois, les zones roumanophones sous Vlach Jog ("droit valaque").
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May 20, 2022, february 16 and june 8, 2024 hungarian versions (according to hungarian contributors, only this sources are serious, academic and reliable): Béla Köpeczi (dir.), Erdély rövid története ("Abridged History of Transylvania"), Akadémiai Kiadó, Budapest 1989, ISBN 9630559013 following Eduard Robert Rössler, Romänische Studien: untersuchungen zur älteren Geschichte Rumäniens ("New Studies: Investigations into the Ancient History of Romania"), Leipzig, 1871.
Mai 7, 2019, july 1, 2022 and february 17, 2024 versions (according to hungarian contributors, this other sources, especially the romanian ones, are false, fanciful, nationalist and irrelevant):

  • Alain Du Nay, André Du Nay et Árpád Kosztin, Transylvania and the Rumanians, Matthias Corvinus Publishing, 1997, 337 p. ISBN 978-1-882785-09-4, p. 15.
  • Olivier Gillet, «Histoire de la Transylvanie: le différend historiographique hungaro-roumain», in: Revue belge de philologie et d'histoire, 1997, tome 75, fasc. 2, p. 457–485.
  • Georges Castellan, «Quelques problèmes d'histoire entre Hongrois et Roumains», in: Melikov zbornik : Slovenci v zgodovini in njihovi srednjeevropski sosedje, Vincenc Rajšp et al., Ljubljana, Založba ZRC 2001, p. 153–162.
  • Rumen Daskalov, Alexander Vezenkov, Entangled Histories of the Balkans - Shared Pasts, Disputed Legacies, Vol. III in Balkan Studies Library, Brill 2015, ISBN 9004290362.
  • János Mihályi, Magyar diplomák a XIII és XIV századbol, Máramaros-sziget, 1900.
  • Kristian Sandfeld, Linguistique balkanique ; problèmes et résultats, Champion, Coll. linguistique de la Société linguistique de Paris, Paris, 1930.
  • Dimitri Kitsikis, La Montée du national-bolchevisme dans les Balkans, Avatar, Paris 2008.
  • Vatro Murvar, The Balkan Vlachs : a typological study, University of Wisconsin, Madison, 1956, p. 20.
  • Ilona Czamańska, "The Vlachs – several research problems" in Balcanica Posnaniensia - Acta et studia n° 22, february 2015, 1, pp. 7–16.
  • Ovid Sachelarie, Nicolae Stoicescu (dir.) Instituţii feudale din ţările române, Romanian Academy Press, Bucharest 1988; Alexandru Avram, Mircea Babeş, Lucian Badea, Mircea Petrescu-Dîmboviţa & Alexandru Vulpe (dir.) Istoria românilor : moştenirea timpurilor îndepărtate, vol.1, Editura Enciclopedică, Bucharest 2001, ISBN 973-45-0382-0.
  • Alexandru Xenopol, Une énigme historique: les Roumains au Moyen Âge, E. Leroux, Paris, 1883 & "Histoire des Roumains de la Dacie Trajane", E. Leroux, Paris, 1896.
  • Nicolae Iorga, Teodor Capidan, Constantin Giurescu : History of the Romanians, Romanian academy, multiple issues.
  • Alexandru Avram, Mircea Babeş, Lucian Badea, Mircea Petrescu-Dîmboviţa and Alexandru Vulpe (dir.), Istoria românilor: moştenirea timpurilor îndepărtate ("History of the Romanians: the heritage of ancient times") vol.1, ed. Enciclopedică, Bucharest 2001.
  • History of Romania, Romanian Cultural Institute (Center for Transylvanian Studies) 2005, pp. 59–132, ISBN 978-973-7784-12-4.
Author Julieta39, modified by OrionNimrod following the hungarian point of view (current version)
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Other versions File:Hungary 13th cent.png, already into line with the Hungarian point of view; this version here was created to show the other point of view, in accordance with the latin expression: «Audi alteram partem»: see discussion file.

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current14:00, 8 June 2024Thumbnail for version as of 14:00, 8 June 20241,758 × 1,308 (1.49 MB)OrionNimrod (talk | contribs)That is the academic Hungarian source map: No Vlach borders inside Hungary, that is only a Photoshopped fantasy by Romanian nationalists, not nice to falsify maps: https://djnaploja.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/magyar-kirc3a1lysc3a1g-xiii-sz.jpg
23:04, 17 February 2024Thumbnail for version as of 23:04, 17 February 2024835 × 626 (567 KB)WajWohu (talk | contribs)Reverted to version as of 20:41, 1 July 2022 (UTC) Please discuss that revert on discussion page, where's a consensus and view scientific sources of: File:Magyarország XII-XIII század második felében.jpg (nearby the same borders)
19:57, 16 February 2024Thumbnail for version as of 19:57, 16 February 20241,758 × 1,308 (1.49 MB)OrionNimrod (talk | contribs)Restore original: Vlach law existed. but it did not have borders, what is the academic source of that borders of Vlach law? That is just Photoshopped by user
20:41, 1 July 2022Thumbnail for version as of 20:41, 1 July 2022835 × 626 (567 KB)Enlightenment1685 (talk | contribs)I restored the Romanian version
00:53, 1 July 2022Thumbnail for version as of 00:53, 1 July 20221,758 × 1,308 (1.49 MB)Enlightenment1685 (talk | contribs)I restoren the original version
13:10, 25 June 2022Thumbnail for version as of 13:10, 25 June 2022834 × 625 (455 KB)Trecătorul răcit (talk | contribs)Sorry but the nationalist hungarian pov which denies the existence of Vlach Jog is not "neutral".
00:19, 4 June 2022Thumbnail for version as of 00:19, 4 June 20221,757 × 1,307 (1.25 MB)Enlightenment1685 (talk | contribs)The original neutral version of the map.
10:31, 20 May 2022Thumbnail for version as of 10:31, 20 May 2022834 × 625 (455 KB)Trecătorul răcit (talk | contribs)Közös jog & details according with Történelmi atlasz, Akademiai kiado, Budapest 1991, ISBN 963-351-422-3
19:10, 13 May 2022Thumbnail for version as of 19:10, 13 May 2022834 × 625 (446 KB)Trecătorul răcit (talk | contribs)Added Iasses & Pechenegs
18:50, 13 May 2022Thumbnail for version as of 18:50, 13 May 2022834 × 625 (446 KB)Trecătorul răcit (talk | contribs)Better legend
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